• LemmysMum@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I had someone ruin this for me so now it’s time to share the love.

    If John Mclane had stayed in his lane and left the situation to play out nobody would have died and a corporation would have been robbed.

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      11 months ago

      Weren’t they planning on herding everyone to the roof and blowing it up?

      The plan was to do that to cover their getaway. Herd the hostages up to the roof, nominally to stop snipers while they got in a helicopter. Then flow it all up. By the time they sorted the body parts and realized they weren’t there, they would be gone and safe by a different route.

      This is also why getting the detonators back was so important. Without them, they couldn’t blow the roof.

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        11 months ago

        Arguably the police would never have been alerted to the situation and the drastic measures would never have been required.

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          11 months ago

          The FBI ultimately getting involved was always a part of Gruber’s plan. Couldn’t bypass the last lock on the safe without them cutting the power.

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              11 months ago

              Me too, because after I posted that, I also remembered his monologue about how if you steal $100M in bearer bonds they will find you unless they think you are dead.

              So yeah, I don’t remember if it was discussed but I think McClane just sped up the timetable for getting the authorities involved. They definitely tried to keep it quiet at first though.

              But also, Mr Takagi was murdered before John had done anything, IIRC.

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      I’m pretty sure the plan was to take the hostages to the roof, blow up the roof and escape in an ambulance.

      Lots of people would have died if Mclane hadn’t intervened.

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    11 months ago

    Where’s the duct tape? Should have won an Oscar for best supporting actor that year but it lost to Batman’s codpiece.

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    11 months ago

    I actually see that becoming the new cookies and milk in 100 years.

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    Oh nononono that’s totally unacceptable. First of all, John McClane is the epitome of toxic masculinity — he smokes, he swears, he shoots guns, and he clearly cannot stop himself from stalking his ex-wife against her clear wishes to be left alone.

    Second, he’s also a racist, who, in a several acts of clear and utter police brutality murders a calm and well-mannered German gentleman (played by a British actor) and his merry band of European immigrants who are merely trying to settle a dispute between themselves and a Japanese megacorporation in order to improve their local economy and feed starving children at home.

    If you’re watching this movie in 2023, you’re definitely an alt-right terrorist and you belong on a watchlist.